{"id":137,"date":"2007-06-08T10:48:21","date_gmt":"2007-06-08T14:48:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.indefenseofthefaith.org\/?p=137"},"modified":"2007-06-08T10:49:30","modified_gmt":"2007-06-08T14:49:30","slug":"nt-wright-on-faith-and-works","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/indefenseofthefaith.org\/idotf\/?p=137","title":{"rendered":"N.T. Wright on Faith and Works"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/newsweek.washingtonpost.com\/onfaith\/\" title=\"On Faith\" target=\"_blank\">ON FAITH<\/a> question is an excellent one&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What&#8217;s more important from a faith perspective? Being saved? Or doing good works?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I would like to point out Bishop N.T. Wright&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/newsweek.washingtonpost.com\/onfaith\/nicholas_t_wright\/2007\/06\/start_by_understanding_salvati.html\" title=\"Start by Understanding Salvation\" target=\"_blank\">response<\/a> to the question. It is an excellent answer as well as another verification that he is in fact a very orthodox Theologian. I hope you enjoy the article. I have re-posted it on this blog entry below:<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Start by Understanding Salvation<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Being saved&#8217; and &#8216;doing good works&#8217; sounds like a low-grade version of the classic Reformation stand-off between Luther and the other reformers on the one hand and the Roman Catholicism of the late mediaeval period on the other &#8212; and, of course, Luther and his followers saw this stand-off as the re-run of the battles Paul had with his opponents, particularly the so-called &#8216;Judaizers&#8217; in Galatians<\/p>\n<p>This important set of arguments has become fairly thoroughly confused in the last hundred or two hundred years because it&#8217;s got muddled up with various others, including (a) the Romantic notion that genuine religion is all about inwardness rather than externals (&#8216;How I feel deep down&#8217; vs &#8216;What I do outwardly&#8217;) and (b) the existentialist notion that &#8216;authenticity&#8217; consists in being true to what one finds within oneself rather than conforming to outward regulations etc. Unfortunately, these four things (Paul&#8217;s battles, Luther&#8217;s battles, Romanticism and existentialism) are simply not the same as one another, though it would take a long article, perhaps a book, to spell all this out (I have tried elsewhere: see e.g. my commentary on Romans in the New Interpreters Bible (Abingdon Press) vol. 10).<\/p>\n<p>Part of the difficulty today is that most people who speak about &#8216;being saved&#8217; in a &#8216;religious&#8217; or &#8216;faith&#8217; sense mean by it, quite simply, &#8216;going to heaven when you die&#8217;. Heaven is important, and our immediate destiny after death is important (I write from a Christian point of view, of course), but it is not the final destination, since in the New Testament the final destination is the &#8216;new heavens and new earth&#8217; we are promised in Revelation 21, the renewed, redeemed creation we are promised in Romans 8, the &#8216;summing up of all things in heaven and earth&#8217; we are promised in Ephesians 1.10. For this we will need, not disembodied immortal souls, though that&#8217;s one way we can talk about what happens to us immediately after death, but re-embodied, resurrected whole selves; and that, of course, is what both Judaism and Christianity promise, or rather what is promised by the creator God of whom both Jews and Christians speak.<\/p>\n<p>And &#8212; and this is the point &#8212; this final destination, not the intermediate &#8216;heavenly&#8217; state, is &#8216;salvation&#8217;; because the creation is good and God-given, so that to imagine that &#8216;salvation&#8217; means being rescued FROM the world is to deny the most fundamental article of the creed. If &#8216;salvation&#8217; means simply &#8216;leaving behind the world of space, time and matter&#8217;, then this is not really &#8216;salvation&#8217; from the ultimate enemy, death itself, which destroys God&#8217;s good creation, but colluding with it. Rather, &#8216;salvation&#8217; in the New Testament &#8212; though of course our culture has done its best to distort this &#8212; is all about God rescuing humans AND CREATION AS WELL from death &#8212; in other words, the redemption and renewal of creation, and of human beings within that, into a newly embodied world of which the present world is simply the foretaste.<\/p>\n<p>If that is &#8216;being saved&#8217;, what about &#8216;good works&#8217;? From Ephesians 1.10 to Ephesians 2.10: we are saved by grace through faith FOR GOOD WORKS WHICH GOD PREPARED BEFOREHAND for us to walk in. Separating the two is like saying &#8216;which is more important, breathing or eating?&#8217; Obviously if you stop breathing you won&#8217;t do much eating, but equally if you never eat you will find your breathing eventually in trouble. Not a perfect analogy, but the &#8216;salvation&#8217; which is &#8216;by grace through faith&#8217; is precisely the rescue of our humanness from all that corrupts it, including ultimately death, and sin which anticipates death &#8212; so if we are indeed rescued from sin and death then it makes no sense whatever to say &#8216;well, I&#8217;m saved, so I won&#8217;t bother about good works&#8217;. We aren&#8217;t saved BY good works but we are saved FOR good works &#8212; for the rich, wise, mature human life which reflects God&#8217;s glory into the world.<\/p>\n<p>Much more to say but this is a start!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/newsweek.washingtonpost.com\/onfaith\/nicholas_t_wright\/2007\/06\/start_by_understanding_salvati.html\" title=\"Start by Understanding Salvation\" target=\"_blank\">Posted by Nicholas T. Wright on June 8, 2007 9:49 AM<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s ON FAITH question is an excellent one&#8230; What&#8217;s more important from a faith perspective? Being saved? Or doing good works? I would like to point out Bishop N.T. Wright&#8217;s response to the question. It is an excellent answer as well as another verification that he is in fact a very orthodox Theologian. I hope &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/indefenseofthefaith.org\/idotf\/?p=137\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">N.T. 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